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	<link>http://atownley.org</link>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Is &#8220;REST API&#8221; an Oxymoron? by The Evolution Of A Sale Using The Focus Method! &#124; 7Wins.eu</title>
		<link>http://atownley.org/2006/12/is-rest-api-an-oxymoron/#comment-18499</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 23:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on ROS vs. Linux: Making It Work by AST</title>
		<link>http://atownley.org/2007/01/ros-vs-linux-making-it-work/#comment-17423</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://atownley.org/2007/01/ros-vs-linux-making-it-work/#comment-17423</guid>
					<description>Hi Damian,

Sorry for the follow-up delay.  I think there's no good way to do that except to trigger the certificate upgrade again directly.  I know I had trouble doing it (&quot;some certificates do that&quot;), so the guy on the support side of things gave me a different URL to try.  Turned out that it was the certificate upgrade URL, but I don't have a reference to it right now.

I'm not sure that they still support access with the old kcrypto stuff.  However, if you still want to try it, &lt;a href=&quot;/files/kcrypto-sun-1.4.jar&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here's the old one&lt;/a&gt;.

Hope this helps.  I know even with access from Linux, the core ROS is still pretty dire.  At least it's really cross-platform now! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Damian,</p>
<p>Sorry for the follow-up delay.  I think there&#8217;s no good way to do that except to trigger the certificate upgrade again directly.  I know I had trouble doing it (&#8221;some certificates do that&#8221;), so the guy on the support side of things gave me a different URL to try.  Turned out that it was the certificate upgrade URL, but I don&#8217;t have a reference to it right now.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure that they still support access with the old kcrypto stuff.  However, if you still want to try it, <a href="/files/kcrypto-sun-1.4.jar" rel="nofollow">here&#8217;s the old one</a>.</p>
<p>Hope this helps.  I know even with access from Linux, the core ROS is still pretty dire.  At least it&#8217;s really cross-platform now! <img src='http://atownley.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>Comment on ROS vs. Linux: Making It Work by damian</title>
		<link>http://atownley.org/2007/01/ros-vs-linux-making-it-work/#comment-17408</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://atownley.org/2007/01/ros-vs-linux-making-it-work/#comment-17408</guid>
					<description>I accessed the new ROS system a couple of months ago and everything worked fine, however I'm now using a new system with an old backup cert as I can't access my old computer. So I think I still need kcrypto to access ROS. Do you have a link I could use?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I accessed the new ROS system a couple of months ago and everything worked fine, however I&#8217;m now using a new system with an old backup cert as I can&#8217;t access my old computer. So I think I still need kcrypto to access ROS. Do you have a link I could use?
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		<title>Comment on ROS vs. Linux: Making It Work by AST</title>
		<link>http://atownley.org/2007/01/ros-vs-linux-making-it-work/#comment-17405</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://atownley.org/2007/01/ros-vs-linux-making-it-work/#comment-17405</guid>
					<description>Hi Damian,

You don't need it anymore.  Once your account has been migrated to the new ROS system, the keys are converted and you can use the built-in Java plugin in 64-bit or 32-bit Linux.  I'm assuming that this means it works as expected using OSX these days too.

If you still have trouble, I'll try and help, but I'll need more information about your system configuration.  You can always reach me on twitter at &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/atownley&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@atownley&lt;/a&gt; and we can see if that will help.

Cheers,

ast</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Damian,</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need it anymore.  Once your account has been migrated to the new ROS system, the keys are converted and you can use the built-in Java plugin in 64-bit or 32-bit Linux.  I&#8217;m assuming that this means it works as expected using OSX these days too.</p>
<p>If you still have trouble, I&#8217;ll try and help, but I&#8217;ll need more information about your system configuration.  You can always reach me on twitter at <a href="http://twitter.com/atownley" rel="nofollow">@atownley</a> and we can see if that will help.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>ast
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		<title>Comment on ROS vs. Linux: Making It Work by damian</title>
		<link>http://atownley.org/2007/01/ros-vs-linux-making-it-work/#comment-17404</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://atownley.org/2007/01/ros-vs-linux-making-it-work/#comment-17404</guid>
					<description>Kcrypto isn't on the ROS site anymore, where could I get it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kcrypto isn&#8217;t on the ROS site anymore, where could I get it?
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		<title>Comment on Why, Context &#038; Legitimacy in the Web by Twitter Trackbacks for Insights » Why, Context &#38; Legitimacy in the Web [atownley.org] on Topsy.com</title>
		<link>http://atownley.org/2006/03/why-context-legitimacy-in-the-web/#comment-17137</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://atownley.org/2006/03/why-context-legitimacy-in-the-web/#comment-17137</guid>
					<description>[...] Insights » Why, Context &amp;#38; Legitimacy in the Web  atownley.org/2006/03/why-context-legitimacy-in-the-web &amp;#8211; view page &amp;#8211; cached  This is Andrew S. Townley's blog. These are my thoughts about life, reality and being an entrepreneur--my insights and way of looking at the world. &amp;#8212; From the page [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Heckler: What You Can Learn from Your Critics by Richard Veryard</title>
		<link>http://atownley.org/2009/06/the-heckler-what-you-can-learn-from-your-critics/#comment-13836</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://atownley.org/2009/06/the-heckler-what-you-can-learn-from-your-critics/#comment-13836</guid>
					<description>I agree totally. I have long argued that resistance isn't something to be &quot;overcome&quot; but something to be understood and accommodated.

http://veryard.wikispaces.com/resistance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree totally. I have long argued that resistance isn&#8217;t something to be &#8220;overcome&#8221; but something to be understood and accommodated.</p>
<p><a href='http://veryard.wikispaces.com/resistance' rel='nofollow'>http://veryard.wikispaces.com/resistance</a>
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		<title>Comment on URI Opacity Revisited by AST</title>
		<link>http://atownley.org/2008/04/uri-opacity-revisited/#comment-13705</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://atownley.org/2008/04/uri-opacity-revisited/#comment-13705</guid>
					<description>Jacek,

Fair point, but I wasn't intentionally trying to restrict it.  &quot;Last&quot; in this case can be interpreted as relative, so if you click &quot;Back&quot;, that's now the &quot;last&quot; document as far as the hypermedia exchange is concerned.

The idea I was trying to get across was that you could fall over a hypermedia document lying on the street, pick it up and following the links should be all you need to do.  I realize that this glosses over a lot about actually *understanding* the semantics of the markup, but I hope you get the idea.

One thing for sure that I DID NOT imply, was that you should embed &quot;back&quot; links of any kind in the document.  You might have links that effectively go &quot;back&quot;, but only if it's a valid state transition from the current representation.  Only the app creating the representation can know this.

Thanks for reading the post! :)

ast</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacek,</p>
<p>Fair point, but I wasn&#8217;t intentionally trying to restrict it.  &#8220;Last&#8221; in this case can be interpreted as relative, so if you click &#8220;Back&#8221;, that&#8217;s now the &#8220;last&#8221; document as far as the hypermedia exchange is concerned.</p>
<p>The idea I was trying to get across was that you could fall over a hypermedia document lying on the street, pick it up and following the links should be all you need to do.  I realize that this glosses over a lot about actually *understanding* the semantics of the markup, but I hope you get the idea.</p>
<p>One thing for sure that I DID NOT imply, was that you should embed &#8220;back&#8221; links of any kind in the document.  You might have links that effectively go &#8220;back&#8221;, but only if it&#8217;s a valid state transition from the current representation.  Only the app creating the representation can know this.</p>
<p>Thanks for reading the post! <img src='http://atownley.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>ast
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		<title>Comment on URI Opacity Revisited by Jacek</title>
		<link>http://atownley.org/2008/04/uri-opacity-revisited/#comment-13690</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://atownley.org/2008/04/uri-opacity-revisited/#comment-13690</guid>
					<description>Andrew, 
your blog entry has been in my to-read queue for some time, and finally I've gone through it. It's generally very good (and agreeable to me), but there's one point I'd like to raise: 

&amp;#62; The operations it performs should be totally bounded by the operations provided by the last hypermedia document received from the service, e.g. the service’s current application state.

Since there's no guarantee, after whatever time the client needs to process the last document received, that it reflects the service's *current* application state. 

Therefore I'd relax this - the operations the client performs should be bounded by the operations provided by the hypermedia documents received earlier from the service. 

I.e., the client can go back() in its history. Sure, the more back it goes, the higher the likelihood that the documents contain obsolete operations, but otherwise you would be suggesting that all hypermedia documents should contain explicit links back or up in the service resource hierarchy (back is hard because the service may not know where the client came from, modulo referer header), for example every item would have to link to (most) every container in which it is.

I think such design isn't really necessary - the back button works quite well, after all, and there's no reason it shouldn't work in non-browser clients as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew,<br />
your blog entry has been in my to-read queue for some time, and finally I&#8217;ve gone through it. It&#8217;s generally very good (and agreeable to me), but there&#8217;s one point I&#8217;d like to raise: </p>
<p>&gt; The operations it performs should be totally bounded by the operations provided by the last hypermedia document received from the service, e.g. the service’s current application state.</p>
<p>Since there&#8217;s no guarantee, after whatever time the client needs to process the last document received, that it reflects the service&#8217;s *current* application state. </p>
<p>Therefore I&#8217;d relax this - the operations the client performs should be bounded by the operations provided by the hypermedia documents received earlier from the service. </p>
<p>I.e., the client can go back() in its history. Sure, the more back it goes, the higher the likelihood that the documents contain obsolete operations, but otherwise you would be suggesting that all hypermedia documents should contain explicit links back or up in the service resource hierarchy (back is hard because the service may not know where the client came from, modulo referer header), for example every item would have to link to (most) every container in which it is.</p>
<p>I think such design isn&#8217;t really necessary - the back button works quite well, after all, and there&#8217;s no reason it shouldn&#8217;t work in non-browser clients as well.
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		<title>Comment on Tweet, Tweet!  That&#8217;s a bird!  That&#8217;s a bird! by Kevin</title>
		<link>http://atownley.org/2009/05/tweet-tweet-thats-a-bird-thats-a-bird/#comment-12654</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 16:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://atownley.org/2009/05/tweet-tweet-thats-a-bird-thats-a-bird/#comment-12654</guid>
					<description>Anyone who doesn't already like the new GI Joe movie is clearly a Cobra operative. Funny, I was 

I like twitter as the mix as well.  Some people I follow @simsron (Asst. Sec of HUD) for example, are data feeds.  Kinda like an RSS feed from people I consider influential.  Occasionally these turn into conversations, I'll respond to a post with a comment or another link, which gets retweeted and the conversation continues...

Others, like my sister (@rboske) are completely a conversation and method for keeping a pulse on people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who doesn&#8217;t already like the new GI Joe movie is clearly a Cobra operative. Funny, I was </p>
<p>I like twitter as the mix as well.  Some people I follow @simsron (Asst. Sec of HUD) for example, are data feeds.  Kinda like an RSS feed from people I consider influential.  Occasionally these turn into conversations, I&#8217;ll respond to a post with a comment or another link, which gets retweeted and the conversation continues&#8230;</p>
<p>Others, like my sister (@rboske) are completely a conversation and method for keeping a pulse on people.
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